Just going to say one more thing, then I'll leave all this alone.

I think we need to let the show be what it is. And, it is what we are
paying for with all its wonder and joy so let's enjoy it. Not try to fuss
with it. We had it curated.

Now that I've said that. I would really like to have it be a REALLY high
priority to have a show (in the somewhat near future) that is out of the
box and off the wall and includes everyone! That will allow for book arts.
That will allow for prints that are jewelry. Allows for prints that are
sculpture. The very tiny prints. And will allow those of us that work on
material such as fabric and those of us that work large to have a place to
show. Where  the work does not need be a neat brown frame! Last year our
local art associate had a print show. Not a large space but they had about
a 100 prints some tiny, some really conventional, but included my hanging
3f x 6f two layers of silk. They also had a print that covered a whole
wall. Some how they found the space and ability to do this! MPC had a show
at Pajaro that was off the wall. For all their members. Why cann't CSP
have a total membership show that is in this manner. Forget the rejection
stuff, just give everyone a show in the future.

And that my input.

> Coming up for air while in Japan for a second to agree with peter and
> Genevieve. I agree it’s a bit disrespectful to the curator, also, to get
> into professionalism minutia, does someone who was not accepted but then
> is included in the salón get to say they were in a museum show on their
> CV?
>
> Also, I think we should really be celebrating the folks who were accepted
> as we are a group that hopefully is organized around supporting each other
> and their practices, and creating a show of unselected works along side
> selected work kind of undercuts the achievement of those who were
> selected.
>
> That said, i think there could be a happy medium, especially if we were
> selecting one or two pieces that fit the medium in the didactic room from
> those not selected, but that still wades into a messy area of a second
> round of selecting....
>
> Ok, back to Japan for a few more hours....
>
> Zach Clark
> www.zachclarkis.com
>
>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 9:42 AM, Peter Baczek <xxxxxx@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> If I may add another yeah to Geneviève's opinion.  I don't think it
>> would be a good idea to set up a Salon des Refusés, as this would be an
>> unprofessional response to a curator's vision.  However, that being
>> said, I had forgotten how much this show is costing CSP-$4,000!  I hope
>> NUMU does not charge their admission ($10) for the reception.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Geneviève L'Heureux wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> I have been seeing the emails go back and forth on the NUMU show. If
>>> there is still an appetite to read more about it, here is my 2-cents.
>>>
>>> I am personally ok with the vision of the curator to have a few artists
>>> showing rather than as many artists as possible (even if my work was
>>> not chosen). We can always argue about how few is too few but
>>> exhibitions with fewer artists represented tend to have some coherence
>>> and that’s not a bad thing (in my mind).
>>>
>>> I also share Mary’s concerns about the Salon des Refusés about the
>>> logistical issues and especially about CSP’s relationship with the
>>> curator and NUMU. Indeed, if board members are not pleased with the
>>> outcome of this show it can, and should, be discussed when future shows
>>> are being planned. But, in my humble opinion, this one should stay as
>>> is.
>>>
>>> Geneviève
>>> www.genevievelheureux.com
>>
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